Enhance Graphics - on Win based MM games (shaders, filters)

[elodman]

Ave!

Leider ist meine Deutschkenntnisse ganz shclecht, so ich übersetze ein bisschen zu einer andere Sprache..:

MM 6 could be quite nice with FSAA, as here someone states:

"BTW- the best example ever made for FSAA... an older RPG, Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven.
FSAA absolutely revolutionizes the graphics in that game. The impact is astounding.
MM6 benefits so much from FSAA that I literally would prefer 640x480x16bpp + 4X FSAA over 1600x1200x32bpp w/out FSAA in that game.
FSAA is an absolute godsend for anyone that wants to play that game."

From:
http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/ind ... 49351.html


But, being blessed with an Intel GMA 4500MHD integrated GPU, this seems impossible.


1 - do you think, external shader / filter programes can help?
eg.
http://filthypants.blogspot.hu/2010/12/ ... -snes.html
http://www.mediafire.com/?78p842uko34ce#razycjpf16spi


2- Installing MM6 in a DosBox environment (within it a Win 3.1 or Win 95) to use its shaders (hq, eagleeye,..) would be useful?


Danke für any info!

[Neverknown]

Sorry, I'm unfortunately not really sure what you are asking for; if it is playing MM6 on a more or less modern PC, there are multiple ways to emulate, easiest may be to purchase the already emulated Version from Gog or included in the MM10 Legacy Pack.

[elodman]

Grüss Gott, Happy New Year Foren Readers!

ich dachte, meine Englsich ist etwas besser, so probiere ich anders:

Danke, ich kann MM 6 spielen ohne Fehler (mit Greyface patch),

Ich wollte nur wissen, wie konnte man das GFX verbessern.

Würde lesen über ihre Erfahrungen an diesem Bereich.
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If someone knows, how to enhance MM 6 GFX - eg in the above mentioned ways - would be happy to hear / see it.

Would happily see "shadered", filtered, "FSAA-d", etc. screenshots.

thx.

[justl]

der artikel aus dem o.g. forum ist aus dem jahr 2002 - ich wuerde den nicht mehr als aktuell bezeichnen - und bessere grafik gaebe es in mm6 nur mit besseren sprites :)

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the article in the forum above is from 2002 - i wouldnt call it a new thing - and better graphics in mm6 you only get via better sprites.

[elodman]

Great confidence you have, justl.

i dont think only new things are beneficial !!!

opinions, opinions, then you say, the statement at
http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/ind ... 49351.html
is false, without having tried it?

Also, without having tried Dosbox (SVN) Shaders?????

All your words without any proof, just using imagination?

[justl]

[quote="elodman"]Great confidence you have, justl.

i dont think only new things are beneficial !!!

opinions, opinions, then you say, the statement at
[url]http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/ind ... 49351.html[/url]
is false, without having tried it?

Also, without having tried Dosbox (SVN) Shaders?????

All your words without any proof, just using imagination?[/quote]

i dont know what you interpreted into what i said ... but clearly the wrong thing ...

[<3Xeen<3]

Hi

Why do you want to install MM6 in a DosBox? Do you want to install win95 in DosBox and on top of it MM6?
Afaik it is like justl said. You need better sprites to improve the gfx.
And, correct me if I'm wrong, FSAA depends on your graphic card, no matter which environment you use (DosBox, Win95, WinXP) And, referring to wikipedia, it isn't used nowadays.


Ohhh sorry, it is an old thread I didn't see the date, sorry. Forget it

[elodman]

anyway I ve already installed win 95 in a dosbox svn daum
and enjoying its nice pixel shaders - of course with a lower speed unfortunately - applied on MM6.
It was really worth it!

anyway thanx for "attention" and comments

bye

[<3Xeen<3]

Ok, thank you for posting your results

I'm not so common with graphics and shaders and so on. And I still don't get it, but maybe I will give it a try when I play MM6 next time

Edit: I have never heard of dosbox svn daum. I searched a bit, it seems to be very good. Particularly because it seems to be "in development", not like the usual dosbox. Thanks for the tip

[Therak]

And I still don't get it, but maybe I will give it a try when I play MM6 next time

Erklärbär in Deutsch, zur besseren Verständnis:
Er hat Dosbox installiert, darin hat er Windows 95 installiert und dort dann Might and Magic 6. Dadurch konnte er MM6 mit den Shadern der DosBox laufen lassen.

Davon gibt's einige zum Rumspielen, siehe hier: klick

[<3Xeen<3]

Also DAS habe ich verstanden. Wenn Du mir jetzt noch erklären kannst, wie es sein kann, dass ein 2.5D Bild besser aussieht, wenn man es über Dosbox->win95 -> Keine Ahnung (wohl win8) laufen lässt, dann bin ich glücklich.

/Edit, die Bilder bringen mich da nicht weiter.

[Therak]

Einfach ausgedrückt: DosBox simuliert über Shader Kantenglättung und Co, indem nahe Pixel einfach farblich angepasst werden.

Sieh dir mal das und das an. Mit den richtigen Shadern, verschwinden die Pixel und es kommt ein fast "gemalter" Look daher.

[Sir Marc von Göskon]

Hmm Lustig aber der Aufwand win 95 im Dosbox installieren, Soundblaster 16 Treiber für Dos/Win installieren, will ja Sound im MM 6.
Und mir gefällt MM 6 und seine Pixel.^^
Lieber mal MM 1-2 Komplett umsetzten als Oblivion oder Skyrim Mod.

[elodman]

Not that I am a net-society fan or member, or feeling charmed...
But yesterday Horst Tappert in my favorite inspector series appeared again in TV...

original:



my favorite (with a shader, but with an added scaler IS sharper!):



cartoon:



all my pics:
http://tinypic.com/a/3cxa1/4


More info on Win 95 install, etc
http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=41958